Panentheism Links – Pros and Cons
March 6, 2010 by Kay · 9 Comments
Because I made peace with my own personal definition of Panentheism quite a while ago, it has been a long time since I’ve Googled the term. However I was inspired to do so today and of course came across a whole new crop of articles that I found interesting for one reason or another.
One of the first articles that I read today – Why I am not a Pantheist (Nor a Panentheist) is very long, but quite worth reading. I wish I had cut and paste some of the paragraphs that made me go “Hmmm” as I read them, but alas, I did not and now most of those thoughts are gone.
However, I will say that I wish that the author had called his article “Why I am not a Pantheist” only because, in my opinion, none of his arguments apply to Panentheism. Here are two quotes that I did make a mental note of my reaction:
So far, I have argued as follows: If the absolute is considered impersonal, than to call it “God” is disingenuous to both the original tenor of Abrahamic theism (before its absorption of ideologies like Gnosticism and Neo-Platonism) as well as the traditions which have always espoused a radically immanent notion of the divine. The latter have typically been either flatly non-theistic, or have depicted personal gods as derivative, a manifestation of a deeper and undifferentiated reality. If we must spiritualize all of existence, labeling it God adds nothing at best, and plays frivolously with a word deeply resonant to the great majority of theists. That is, unless the cosmos or the “All” can be argued to have a personal element over and above the sentient beings who occupy it (as insisted upon by process theologians), a position which has little experiential or philosophical justification.
Well that’s just it, isn’t it? Panentheists DO argue that The All DOES have a ‘personal element’ over and above the sentient beings that occupy it. Otherwise they would be Pantheists. And many Panentheists would argue that there is experiential justification (as they have experienced it). And I’d think that Panentheists like Whitehead or Clayton would argue that there is philosophical justification, as they are, ummm, philosophers and Panentheists.
It is neither the cosmos which merits spiritualization, nor the self considered alone, but the depth of the relationship between the two.
An obvious rejoinder is that this relationship is itself part of the All, and to think of it in abstraction from the totality of things is as fallacious as conceiving of heightened and exalted experiences without the human beings undergoing them. I have no quarrel with this picture; that we are part of the totality of things is a matter of logic (where else can we be?). But this is no argument for pantheism or panentheism, and in fact can be turned against both: For the relationship of the self to the rest of existence is indeed part of the All—and not to be identified with the totality in which it inheres.
Of course it’s an argument for Panentheism. It’s the very definition of Panentheism – that we are part of the totality of things and are not to be identified with the totality in which we inhere. (That would be Pantheism.)
A blog that I found during my searching is Theology in the 3rd Millennium. There is a very good article on Panentheism. Alas it doesn’t look like it has been updated since 2008. (I’d hoped I’d found a new blog to put on my RSS reader.
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I’m out of time but will return to this post later and add more links and comments. Until then, your thoughts are appreciated.

Solitude – The Cure for Lonliness
March 6, 2010 by Kay · 6 Comments
Today’s daily meditation by Richard Rohr really spoke to me. It made me think of the “episodes” that I’ve had in the past where modern society seems so surreal (and unreal) and I’ve wondered if we are living the way we are supposed to be living for our physical, mental and spiritual health.
As I read Rohr’s words I pictured myself standing in a field, barefoot, under a huge sky, surrounded by grasses and trees, with the sun shining down on me. There were no noises other than the wind and birdsong. No planes. No cars. No power lines. No people. Just me and Presence.
Here is the Daily Meditation:
Do you know what the answer for deep loneliness is? Solitude! No one would have ever imagined it, but I promise you it is true.
In solitude, we are able to let Reality/God define us from the inside out. We stop looking outside of ourselves for diversions, entertainment, or real satisfaction. It is the birth of the soul. When we keep looking outside of ourselves, we always and forever need another and then another diversion.
In solitude we slowly learn to live face to face with a Presence that asks nothing of us but presence in return (see I Corinthians 13:12 (JB)). It is too good to be true. This is the birth of the soul.
If we’ve never lived in the realm of pure presence without any need for achieving and performing, we don’t know how to breathe there at first. It is like living on a different planet. But eventually, we allow ourselves to be defined by relationship itself instead of by the good or bad—or even the holy—things we’ve done. And now it is relationship with everything, the rocks at our feet, the air that we breathe consciously, the little animals and birds, the God who is now obvious and praiseworthy in all things. Solitude, ironically and surprisingly, can connect us to everything else. Who would have thought?

How it Should Have Ended – Star Trek (2009)
March 3, 2010 by Kay · 3 Comments
I can’t make you watch this video. In fact I suspect that, from the lack of comments, that very few of the videos I post ever get watched. (Come on! The Dragon Taming video was hilarious!) Still, I hope you watch this one – but only if you saw the 2009 Star Trek Movie, ’cause otherwise it won’t make any sense.
Trinity Prayer
March 3, 2010 by Kay · 4 Comments
While trying to find some quotes from Richard Rohr on the importance of The Trinity in Christian metaphysics and philosophy, I came across a prayer by Ben at Journey Something. (Side note – Journey Something is a blog that I used to have on my blogroll and feedreader way back when. I think I may have been blogging at Songs of Unforgetting. Ben used to visit my blog occasionally too. I say this just in case Ben sees this post as a trackback.
Of course, with all the blogs I’ve had, it might not have been Songs of Unforgetting … It could have been Chaotic Spirit or … )
Anywhoo – Here is the prayer. I thought it beautiful and it imagines my idea of the Trinity very well.
God For Us, we call You Father,
God Alongside Us, we call You Jesus,
God Within Us, we call You Holy Spirit.You are the Eternal Mystery
That enables, enfolds, and enlivens all things,
Even us, and even me.Every name falls short of your
Goodness and Greatness.
We can only see who You are in what is.We ask for such perfect seeing.
As it was in the begining, is now,
and ever shall be. Amen.
Put Aside All the Dithering Thoughts
February 27, 2010 by Kay · 2 Comments
I have a follow-up post to the Logos and Mythos blog in the works, but it’s turning out to be long and I’ve got typers cramp.
In the meantime I thought I’d do another Osho Zen tarot card reading on my everlasting situation of “What the hell should I do when it comes to my spiritual life?”
I asked the universe “Can I find a place within the Christian landscape? Am I on the right track with what I’ve been thinking about over the past day?” (Which is part of what the other post will be about.)
And here is what I drew: Postponement
The woman in this picture is living in a gray landscape, full of unreal, cut-out clouds. Through the window frame she can see colors and light and aliveness, and although she would like to move through the frame–as we can see by the rainbow colors appearing in her garment–she can’t quite manage to do it. There is still too much ‘what-if?’ activity in her mind. Tomorrow never comes, they say, but no matter how often it is said, it seems that most of us tend to forget the truth of it. In fact, the one and only result of postponing things is a dull and depressing feeling of incompletion and ’stuck-ness’ today. The relief and expansiveness you will feel once you put aside all the dithering thoughts that are preventing you from acting now will make you wonder why you ever waited so long.
My interpretation: Quit waffling and do something already!
Then I asked “But,” (there is always a ‘but’ with me isn’t there?) – “But I need to know if Jesus is God or a god or a deva or a man. Is the point nonduality or politics or mysticism or … ? The Bible is so full of contradictions and none of the stories about Jesus match the others and I don’t know who the ‘real’ Jesus is. TELL ME WHO HE IS!” (Yup, I was yelling at the universe and at the Tarot deck. Puddle of Mudd is playing in my mind again.
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And this is the card that I drew: Ordinariness
This figure walking in nature shows us that beauty can be found in the simple, ordinary things of life. We so easily take this beautiful world we live in for granted. Cleaning the house, tending the garden, cooking a meal–the most mundane tasks take on a sacred quality when they are performed with your total involvement, with love, and for their own sake, without thought of recognition or reward. You are facing a time now when this easy, natural and utterly ordinary approach to the situations you encounter will bring far better results than any attempt on your part to be brilliant, clever, or otherwise extra-ordinary. Forget all about making headlines by inventing the latest widget, or dazzling your friends and colleagues with your unique star quality. The special gift you have to offer now is presented best by just taking things easily and simply, one step at a time.
My interpretation: Keep it simple. The more complicated I make it, the crazier I’m going to make myself and the harder it will be. Keep it simple.



